Witness My Fury

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  Best old books for exposing the 1874/1914 fraud?

  by Essan in

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  i'm looking for a couple of the society's old books, one just prior to 1914 the other in the 1920's (as late as possible), which would show what the society was actually saying about 1914 in the run up to that year and that they were still promoting 1874 as the year of christ's presence for many years after 1914.. .

  basically i'm looking for recommendations for two of their old books which would do the most damage to the modern jw claims about their past and show they could not have fulfilled prophesy or "qualified" for anything back then, as they claim.. .

  there must be a couple of books which are really dynamite, choc full of nonsense and failed predictions.

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  Witness My Fury

  Yep, I can confirm volume 2 of studies in the scriptures helped convince me it was a crock of shit.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  Eggnog is the scholar and the master and we are all illiterate little children, ...yeah that makes perfect sense

  Eggnog you have now disappointed me totally and I no longer give you any benefit of any doubt. I lost patience with you in my last post. You seem to enjoy beng deliberately vague and stringing us along. Is that so you can then enjoy belittling us when we dont understand you I wonder. Your Ego is your downfall.
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  LETS TALK JESUS.....

  by Quentin in

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  was jesus a real living being?

  or, was he a myth, made up 60 to 70 years after the fact.. i for one believe he did exist.

  was the epicenter of oral traditions and overblown hype.

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  Witness My Fury

  He spoke a lot of riddles.... and even when he gave his own interpretation for his followers then, they still arent always clear what he meant. Then he left it to us to interpret them, ... hmmm look where that got us!
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  Will there be sex in paradise

  by beenthere26yr in

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  Witness My Fury

  If there is you'll have to present yourself to the elders and give all the juicy details and then go wash and make sacrifices and be unclean 7 days outside the camp where everyone else can point the finger at you and mock. Does that sound appealing?
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  (Sighs very heavily)

  Eggnog that's one hell of a non post right there. Lots of fluff and filler but no substance. Cant you express yourself in posts of less than 200 words?

  Even in your secular "supporting" quote it gives the CORRECT dates right in front of your eyes, but you dont wish to see it obviously. It appears to me that you are not a person who will EVER change their mind once it is made up.

  As you said yourself you take pride in yourself on doing research ONCE only, so no need to go back and redo it is there? Or is there? What if you are wrong 1st time around and you NEVER allow yourself to be WRONG? Then you will never come to the truth about any matter unless you got it right 1st time around. That's got to be a very stupid way of going about things to let pride get in the way of truth.

  Your maths suck as well.

  You say Belshazzar was co regent in nabonidus' 3rd year and that he ruled for 17 years. How does that = 35 years?

  You then claim that Ptolemys Canon "says" 35 and not 17. Prove that please : Just google Ptolemys canon and check any page you like it will say 17 years for Nabonidus (555 -539) Belshazzar died when Babylon was destroyed remember so that's 539 too.
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  Real Jehovah's Witnesses (djeggnog, StandFirm, etc), I'm trying to understand you.

  by pirata in

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  i'm an active jehovah's witness.

  i've obviously lost my faith, that's why i don't feel bad posting here anymore.

  i'd probably be disfellowshipped as a division causing, teaching, apostate, faster than you can say "maher-shalal-hash-baz" (isaiah 8:1), should it be found out that i was posting here and did not repent of the things i've said and stop participating in this forum.

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  Witness My Fury

  I ALWAYS make the assumption they are counting time here.

  pnt (cant be bothered with the numbers sorry) above, must have spent literally HOURS on the posts above (unless maybe a fantasticly gifted touch typist)! I'm willing to bet that time will be reported. The internet is a field of ministry being the reasoning.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  I'm rereading The Gentile Times Reconsidered,.... Chapter 5 covers all this EXACTLY.

  I'd forgotten how thoroughly the biblical analysis was there tbh as I found all the info in the book overwhelming 1st time around having mainly concerned myself with the evidence presented.

  Now rereading it carefully and having previously done my own open eyed study of all the relavent sections in the bible, I can now see Mr Jonson has it nailed. The logic is overwhelming once the blinkers come off.

  I highly recommend the book. Eggnog if you havent read it then I suggest you do and like me probably more than once to get the full sense of it.

  You may want to cross reference Egyption history against the bible accounts as well when it mentions the various pharoahs... not by just adding 20 years to ALL the worlds history like the WTS likes to do either!

  In answer to my own problem,... yes you can disprove 607 using just the bible and some common sense. ...But it does require a willingness to SEE what the bible actually says.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

  1. watchtower
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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  Ignoring psycho delusional thread hijacking nut....

  @Eggnog,.. so you belive the nonsense on P46 on the Daniel book about Daniel 2:1 then. To Quote:

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  *** dp chap. 4 p. 46 The Rise and Fall of an Immense Image ***

  Chapter Four

  The Rise and Fall of an Immense Image

  A DECADE has passed since King Nebuchadnezzar brought Daniel and other "foremost men of the land" of Judah into captivity in Babylon. (2 Kings 24:15) Young Daniel is serving in the king's court when a life-threatening situation arises. Why should this interest us? Because the way that Jehovah God intervenes in the matter not only saves the lives of Daniel and others but also gives us a view of the march of world powers of Bible prophecy leading into our times.

  A MONARCH FACES A DIFFICULT PROBLEM

  2 "In the second year of the kingship of Nebuchadnezzar," wrote the prophet Daniel, "Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams; and his spirit began to feel agitated, and his very sleep was made to be something beyond him." (Daniel 2:1) The dreamer was Nebuchadnezzar, the king of the Babylonian Empire. He had effectively become world ruler in 607 B.C.E. when Jehovah God allowed him to destroy Jerusalem and its temple. In the second year of Nebuchadnezzar's reign as world ruler (606/605 B.C.E.), God sent him a terrifying dream.

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  That's one hell of a leap there dont you think!

  If you had stated the slightly more reasonable position that Nebs 2nd year here was being counted by Daniel since his exile AND Daniel assigning that period an accession (year 0) giving 0, 1, 2 years would have been passable, but to spout the same drivel as on P46 quoed above is a very poor show indeed.

  Nil points to you sir.

  AND you refused to provide any backup for your 35 years for Nabonidus / Belshazzar, tut tut.

  Nil points to you sir.

  Go on you know you want to.....
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  Noooooooooo, dont mix up the 70 weeks and the 70 years FFS!

  Jeremiah is the chap you want.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Witness My Fury

  @thetrueone ...I'm pretty sure it was an early 1975 method. i.e same event 6000 yrs from Adam.

  1975 was arrived at by "corrected" chonology as they found out they had lost 100 years somewhere.